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Superboy (DC)(Earth-1 - Pre Crisis)(01-Clark Kent)

Contribution History:
Date User Field Old Value New Value
2012-12-18 04:56:24 aaronmoish Alias Superboy (DC)(Earth-1 - Pre Crisis)(01 - Clark Ken Superboy (DC)(Earth-1 - Pre Crisis)(01-Clark Kent)
2012-12-18 04:51:41 aaronmoish Alias Superboy (01 - Clark Kent of Earth-1) Superboy (DC)(Earth-1 - Pre Crisis)(01 - Clark Kent)
2011-09-28 11:35:38 mutant2099 Alias Superboy (Earth-1) (01 - Clark Kent) Superboy (01 - Clark Kent of Earth-1)
2011-09-14 09:37:01 mutant2099 Alias Superboy (01 - Clark Kent of Earth-1) Superboy (Earth-1) (01 - Clark Kent)
2010-11-30 03:37:27 aaronmoish Alias Superboy (Earth-1) Superboy (01 - Clark Kent of Earth-1)
2010-11-30 03:37:27 aaronmoish Powers He has super strength, hearing, sight, breath, intelligence, can fly, vocal and ventriloquistic powers X-Ray and heat vision. He has super strength, hearing, sight, breath, intelligence, can fly, vocal and ventriloquist powers X-Ray and heat vision.
2008-09-27 15:43:24 ccl080673 Powers He has super strength, hearing, sight, breath, intelligence, can fly, vocal and ventriloquistic powers X-Ray and heat vision.
2008-09-27 15:42:35 ccl080673 Weaknesses Kryptonite, a red sun, virus-x, lead and magic.
2007-01-18 15:36:03 Skyhawke Alias Superboy of Earth-1 Superboy (Earth-1)
2006-08-27 06:43:45 ferroboy Alias Superboy of Earth 1 Superboy of Earth-1
2006-08-06 19:15:19 DarthSkeptical Alias Superboy 01 (of Earth 1) Superboy of Earth 1
2006-07-26 20:18:17 DarthSkeptical Alias Superboy of Earth 1 Superboy 01 (of Earth 1)
2006-07-26 20:04:39 DarthSkeptical Alias Superboy (I - pre-Crisis) Superboy of Earth 1
2006-07-15 14:21:53 DarthSkeptical Notes An interesting side effect of Infinite Crisis may be that the post-Crisis on Infinite Earths mantra that "Superboy never existed" may be changing somewhat. It may now be more accurate to say that he's the Earth 1 Superboy, rather than that he never/> existed. Though the details have yet to be played out in the narrative, it would seem that the memory of the multiverse is no longer limited to just one or two characters in the DCU. Instead of having never existed, it's more like he exists in a reality to which people of the present DCU have limited access. The last issues of JSA (1999) seem to suggest that multiverse characters, like Superboy, have at least a sort of ghost existence in the present DCU. An interesting side effect of Infinite Crisis may be that the post-Crisis on Infinite Earths mantra that "Superboy never existed" may be changing somewhat. It may now be more accurate to say that he's the Earth 1 Superboy, rather than that he never existed. Though the details have yet to be played out in the narrative, it would seem that the memory of the multiverse is no longer limited to just one or two characters in the DCU. Instead of having never existed, it's more like he exists in a reality to which people of the present DCU have limited access. The last issues of JSA (1999) seem to suggest that multiverse characters, like Superboy, have at least a sort of ghost existence in the present DCU.
2006-07-15 14:21:07 DarthSkeptical Bio Though generally identified as a "silver age" hero, he's really the last major "new" hero of the Golden Age. Not that he's exactly a unique hero. He's just "Superman...as a boy", right? Well, generally, yes. But the question becomes exactly which Superman he's the younger version of.

As Earth 2 came to be depicted in the Silver Age, there was absolutely no Superboy. Yet, Superboy was created firmly in the Golden Age, and to any reader of the book at the time, there would've been no question but that this was the younger version of the only Superman then in publication: the (more-or-less) original Siegel and Shuster creation.

Following the introduction of the Flash II (Barry Allen), though, the general, but sometimes erroneous, "guideline" of the DCU was that superheroes that predated Barry Allen--and certainly any introduced in the 1940s--would be automatically considered part of the Earth 2 universe.

Superboy, however, having been created during the Golden Age, but a resident of Earth 1, does not easily follow this rule.

According to some observers, Superboy's Golden Age exploits are thus explained as being that of an Earth 1 Superboy operating on Earth 2. This group of fans will point to the New Adventures of Superboy towards a story that suggested that Clark Kent of Earth 2 was inspired by meetings with Superboy to learn how to channel his powers effectively. Even the uniform he wore was retroactively thought to be a nod to Superboy's costume, rather than an invention of his own or a legacy artifact from Krypton. In effect, one way to read things is to say that Earth 1's "young Superman" was the mentor to the older, Earth 2 version. Superman of Earth 2 may never have come to be without the influence of Superboy.

Crisis on Infinite Earths, which posits both the complete erasure of Superboy and the key role Superman of Earth 2 to the closing of the multiverse therefore raises interesting (though mind-taxing) problems because of Superboy. Who disappeared first when the universes melded? Did they both disappear in the same instant, or, as we saw depicted in the comic, did Superman of Earth 2 fight until the very last instant of Earth 2's existence, some moments after Superboy's reality ended? If Superman of Earth 2 existed in the time stream longer than Superboy would he still be Superman when he landed the final blow on the Anti-Monitor and....ugh, you get the picture. It's a big, ol' geekfest up in here.

Other commentators have had an easier time with all this. Since, they say, Superboy's existence is entirely moot anyway, why not take a more economical view of the need to retcon parts of his existence. Instead of placing Superboy on Earth 2, and enduring the damage that can potentially do to one's sanity, don't be troubled by the few issues in which the whole "Superboy teaches Clark of Earth 2" thing was floated (New Adventures of Superboy #15-16). Believe that they describe a rare encounter between the two characters. Then, use the presence of Superboy as an indication of whether a story in the 1940s and 50s actually takes place on Earth 1. To them, the presence of Superboy in a story is something of a godsend in a 1950s comic, because it absolutely establishes it as an Earth 1 story.

Either way you solve the continuity puzzle that was Superboy I, one thing remains constant: from a present-day perspective he no longer exists, and never did. He's best remembered now more for his influence than the particulars of the stories in which he was involved. He gave Superman's creators a winnable court case against DC, and thus provided Siegel and Shuster an ironic source of royalty income from the creation they'd sold outright for a little over $100. His appearances, and perhaps particularly The New Adventures of Superboy, provided a lot of character detail later used in the television shows, Superboy and Smallville And, through Superboy, the DCU got the Legion of Superheroes, a wholly original spin on the supergroup concept.
Though generally identified as a "silver age" hero, he's really the last major "new" hero of the Golden Age. Not that he's exactly a unique hero. He's just "Superman...as a boy", right? Well, generally, yes. But the question becomes exactly which Superman he's the younger version of.

As Earth 2 came to be depicted in the Silver Age, there was absolutely no Superboy. Yet, Superboy was created firmly in the Golden Age, and to any reader of the book at the time, there would've been no question but that this was the younger version of the only Superman then in publication: the (more-or-less) original Siegel and Shuster creation.

Following the introduction of the Flash II (Barry Allen), though, the general, but sometimes erroneous, "guideline" of the DCU was that superheroes that predated Barry Allen--and certainly any introduced in the 1940s--would be automatically considered part of the Earth 2 universe.

Superboy, however, having been created during the Golden Age, but a resident of Earth 1, does not easily follow this rule.

According to some observers, Superboy's Golden Age exploits are thus explained as being that of an Earth 1 Superboy operating on Earth 2. This group of fans will point to the New Adventures of Superboy towards a story that suggested that Clark Kent of Earth 2 was inspired by meetings with Superboy to learn how to channel his powers effectively. Even the uniform he wore was retroactively thought to be a nod to Superboy's costume, rather than an invention of his own or a legacy artifact from Krypton. In effect, one way to read things is to say that Earth 1's "young Superman" was the mentor to the older, Earth 2 version. Superman of Earth 2 may never have come to be without the influence of Superboy.

Crisis on Infinite Earths, which posits both the complete erasure of Superboy and the key role Superman of Earth 2 to the closing of the multiverse therefore raises interesting (though mind-taxing) problems because of Superboy. Who disappeared first when the universes melded? Did they both disappear in the same instant, or, as we saw depicted in the comic, did Superman of Earth 2 fight until the very last instant of Earth 2's existence, some moments after Superboy's reality ended? If Superman of Earth 2 existed in the time stream longer than Superboy would he still be Superman when he landed the final blow on the Anti-Monitor and....ugh, you get the picture. It's a big, ol' geekfest up in here.

Other commentators have had an easier time with all this. Since, they say, Superboy's existence is entirely moot anyway, why not take a more economical view of the need to retcon parts of his existence. Instead of placing Superboy on Earth 2, and enduring the damage that can potentially do to one's sanity, don't be troubled by the few issues in which the whole "Superboy teaches Clark of Earth 2" thing was floated (New Adventures of Superboy #15-16). Believe that they describe a rare encounter between the two characters. Then, use the presence of Superboy as an indication of whether a story in the 1940s and 50s actually takes place on Earth 1. To them, the presence of Superboy in a story is something of a godsend in a 1950s comic, because it absolutely establishes it as an Earth 1 story.

Either way you solve the continuity puzzle that was Superboy I, one thing remains constant: from a present-day perspective he no longer exists, and never did. He's best remembered now more for his influence than the particulars of the stories in which he was involved. He gave Superman's creators a winnable court case against DC, and thus provided Siegel and Shuster an ironic source of royalty income from the creation they'd sold outright for a little over $100. His appearances, and perhaps particularly The New Adventures of Superboy, provided a lot of character detail later used in the television shows, Superboy and Smallville. And, through Superboy, the DCU got the Legion of Superheroes, a wholly original spin on the supergroup concept.
2006-07-15 14:21:07 DarthSkeptical Notes An interesting side effect of Infinite Crisis may be that the post-Crisis on Infinite Earths mantra that "Superboy never existed" may be changing somewhat. It may now be more accurate to say that he's the Earth 1 Superboy, rather than that he never/> existed. Though the details have yet to be played out in the narrative, it would seem that the memory of the multiverse is no longer limited to just one or two characters in the DCU. Instead of having never existed, it's more like he exists in a reality to which people of the present DCU have limited access. The last issues of JSA (1999) seem to suggest that multiverse characters, like Superboy, have at least a sort of ghost existence in the present DCU.
2006-07-15 14:09:55 DarthSkeptical Bio Though generally identified as a "silver age" hero, he's really the last major "new" hero of the Golden Age. Not that he's exactly a unique hero. He's just "Superman...as a boy", right? Well, generally, yes. But the question becomes exactly which Superman he's the younger version of.

As Earth 2 came to be depicted in the Silver Age, there was absolutely no Superboy. Yet, Superboy was created firmly in the Golden Age, and to any reader of the book at the time, there would've been no question but that this was the younger version of the only Superman then in publication: the (more-or-less) original Siegel and Shuster creation.

Following the introduction of the Flash II (Barry Allen), though, the general, but sometimes erroneous, "guideline" of the DCU was that superheroes that predated Barry Allen--and certainly any introduced in the 1940s--would be automatically considered part of the Earth 2 universe.

Superboy, however, having been created during the Golden Age, but a resident of Earth 1, does not easily follow this rule.

According to some observers, Superboy's Golden Age exploits are thus explained as being that of an Earth 1 Superboy operating on Earth 2. This group of fans will point to the New Adventures of Superboy towards a story that suggested that Clark Kent of Earth 2 was inspired by meetings with Superboy to learn how to channel his powers effectively. Even the uniform he wore was retroactively thought to be a nod to Superboy's costume, rather than an invention of his own or a legacy artifact from Krypton. In effect, one way to read things is to say that Earth 1's "young Superman" was the mentor to the older, Earth 2 version. Superman of Earth 2 may never have come to be without the influence of Superboy.

Crisis on Infinite Earths, which posits both the complete erasure of Superboy and the key role Superman of Earth 2 to the closing of the multiverse therefore raises interesting (though mind-taxing) problems because of Superboy. Who disappeared first when the universes melded? Did they both disappear in the same instant, or, as we saw depicted in the comic, did Superman of Earth 2 fight until the very last instant of Earth 2's existence, some moments after Superboy's reality ended? If Superman of Earth 2 existed in the time stream longer than Superboy would he still be Superman when he landed the final blow on the Anti-Monitor and....ugh, you get the picture. It's a big, ol' geekfest up in here.

Other commentators have had an easier time with all this. Since, they say, Superboy's existence is entirely moot anyway, why not take a more economical view of the need to retcon parts of his existence. Instead of placing Superboy on Earth 2, and enduring the damage that can potentially do to one's sanity, don't be troubled by the few issues in which the whole "Superboy teaches Clark of Earth 2" thing was floated (New Adventures of Superboy #15-16). Believe that they describe a rare encounter between the two characters. Then, use the presence of Superboy as an indication of whether a story in the 1940s and 50s actually takes place on Earth 1. To them, the presence of Superboy in a story is something of a godsend in a 1950s comic, because it absolutely establishes it as an Earth 1 story.

Either way you solve the continuity puzzle that was Superboy I, one thing remains constant: from a present-day perspective he no longer exists, and never did. He's best remembered now more for his influence than the particulars of the stories in which he was involved. He gave Superman's creators a winnable court case against DC, and thus provided Siegel and Shuster an ironic source of royalty income from the creation they'd sold outright for a little over $100. And, through Superboy, the DCU got the Legion of Superheroes, a wholly original spin on the supergroup concept.
Though generally identified as a "silver age" hero, he's really the last major "new" hero of the Golden Age. Not that he's exactly a unique hero. He's just "Superman...as a boy", right? Well, generally, yes. But the question becomes exactly which Superman he's the younger version of.

As Earth 2 came to be depicted in the Silver Age, there was absolutely no Superboy. Yet, Superboy was created firmly in the Golden Age, and to any reader of the book at the time, there would've been no question but that this was the younger version of the only Superman then in publication: the (more-or-less) original Siegel and Shuster creation.

Following the introduction of the Flash II (Barry Allen), though, the general, but sometimes erroneous, "guideline" of the DCU was that superheroes that predated Barry Allen--and certainly any introduced in the 1940s--would be automatically considered part of the Earth 2 universe.

Superboy, however, having been created during the Golden Age, but a resident of Earth 1, does not easily follow this rule.

According to some observers, Superboy's Golden Age exploits are thus explained as being that of an Earth 1 Superboy operating on Earth 2. This group of fans will point to the New Adventures of Superboy towards a story that suggested that Clark Kent of Earth 2 was inspired by meetings with Superboy to learn how to channel his powers effectively. Even the uniform he wore was retroactively thought to be a nod to Superboy's costume, rather than an invention of his own or a legacy artifact from Krypton. In effect, one way to read things is to say that Earth 1's "young Superman" was the mentor to the older, Earth 2 version. Superman of Earth 2 may never have come to be without the influence of Superboy.

Crisis on Infinite Earths, which posits both the complete erasure of Superboy and the key role Superman of Earth 2 to the closing of the multiverse therefore raises interesting (though mind-taxing) problems because of Superboy. Who disappeared first when the universes melded? Did they both disappear in the same instant, or, as we saw depicted in the comic, did Superman of Earth 2 fight until the very last instant of Earth 2's existence, some moments after Superboy's reality ended? If Superman of Earth 2 existed in the time stream longer than Superboy would he still be Superman when he landed the final blow on the Anti-Monitor and....ugh, you get the picture. It's a big, ol' geekfest up in here.

Other commentators have had an easier time with all this. Since, they say, Superboy's existence is entirely moot anyway, why not take a more economical view of the need to retcon parts of his existence. Instead of placing Superboy on Earth 2, and enduring the damage that can potentially do to one's sanity, don't be troubled by the few issues in which the whole "Superboy teaches Clark of Earth 2" thing was floated (New Adventures of Superboy #15-16). Believe that they describe a rare encounter between the two characters. Then, use the presence of Superboy as an indication of whether a story in the 1940s and 50s actually takes place on Earth 1. To them, the presence of Superboy in a story is something of a godsend in a 1950s comic, because it absolutely establishes it as an Earth 1 story.

Either way you solve the continuity puzzle that was Superboy I, one thing remains constant: from a present-day perspective he no longer exists, and never did. He's best remembered now more for his influence than the particulars of the stories in which he was involved. He gave Superman's creators a winnable court case against DC, and thus provided Siegel and Shuster an ironic source of royalty income from the creation they'd sold outright for a little over $100. His appearances, and perhaps particularly The New Adventures of Superboy, provided a lot of character detail later used in the television shows, Superboy and Smallville And, through Superboy, the DCU got the Legion of Superheroes, a wholly original spin on the supergroup concept.
2006-07-15 14:05:01 DarthSkeptical Bio Though generally identified as a "silver age" hero, he's really the last major "new" hero of the Golden Age. Not that he's exactly a unique hero. He's just "Superman...as a boy", right? Well, generally, yes. But the question becomes exactly which Superman he's the younger version of.

As Earth 2 came to be depicted in the Silver Age, there was absolutely no Superboy. Yet, Superboy was created firmly in the Golden Age, and to any reader of the book at the time, there would've been no question but that this was the younger version of the only Superman then in publication: the (more-or-less) original Siegel and Shuster creation.

Following the introduction of the Flash II (Barry Allen), though, the general, but sometimes erroneous, "guideline" of the DCU was that superheroes that predated Barry Allen--and certainly any introduced in the 1940s--would be automatically considered part of the Earth 2 universe.

Superboy, however, having been created during the Golden Age, but a resident of Earth 1, does not easily follow this rule.

According to some observers, Superboy's Golden Age exploits are thus explained as being that of an Earth 1 Superboy operating on Earth 2. This group of fans will point to the New Adventures of Superboy towards a story that suggested that Clark Kent of Earth 2 was inspired by meetings with Superboy to learn how to channel his powers effectively. Even the uniform he wore was retroactively thought to be a nod to Superboy's costume, rather than an invention of his own or a legacy artifact from Krypton. In effect, one way to read things is to say that Earth 1's "young Superman" was the mentor to the older, Earth 2 version. Superman of Earth 2 may never have come to be without the influence of Superboy.

Crisis on Infinite Earths, which posits both the complete erasure of Superboy and the key role Superman of Earth 2 to the closing of the multiverse therefore raises interesting (though mind-taxing) problems because of Superboy. Who disappeared first when the universes melded? Did they both disappear in the same instant, or, as we saw depicted in the comic, did Superman of Earth 2 fight until the very last instant of Earth 2's existence, some moments after Superboy's reality ended? If Superman of Earth 2 existed in the time stream longer than Superboy would he still BE Superman when he landed the final blow on the Anti-Monitor and....ugh, you get the picture. It's a big, ol' geekfest up in here.

Other commentators have had an easier time with all this. Since, they say, Superboy's existence is entirely moot anyway, why not take a more economical view of the need to retcon parts of his existence. Instead of placing Superboy on Earth 2, and enduring the damage that can potentially do to one's sanity, don't be troubled by the few issues in which the whole "Superboy teaches Clark of Earth 2" thing was floated (New Adventures of Superboy #15-16). Believe that they describe a rare encounter between the two characters. Then, use the presence of Superboy as an indication of whether a story in the 1940s and 50s actually takes place on Earth 1. To them, the presence of Superboy in a story is something of a godsend in a 1950s comic, because it absolutely establishes it as an Earth 1 story.

Either way you solve the continuity puzzle that was Superboy I, one thing remains constant: from a present-day perspective he no longer exists, and never did. He's best remembered now more for his influence than the particulars of the stories in which he was involved. He gave Superman's creators a winnable court case against DC, and thus provided Siegel and Shuster an ironic source of royalty income from the creation they'd sold outright for a little over $100. And, through Superboy, the DCU got the Legion of Superheroes, a wholly original spin on the supergroup concept.
Though generally identified as a "silver age" hero, he's really the last major "new" hero of the Golden Age. Not that he's exactly a unique hero. He's just "Superman...as a boy", right? Well, generally, yes. But the question becomes exactly which Superman he's the younger version of.

As Earth 2 came to be depicted in the Silver Age, there was absolutely no Superboy. Yet, Superboy was created firmly in the Golden Age, and to any reader of the book at the time, there would've been no question but that this was the younger version of the only Superman then in publication: the (more-or-less) original Siegel and Shuster creation.

Following the introduction of the Flash II (Barry Allen), though, the general, but sometimes erroneous, "guideline" of the DCU was that superheroes that predated Barry Allen--and certainly any introduced in the 1940s--would be automatically considered part of the Earth 2 universe.

Superboy, however, having been created during the Golden Age, but a resident of Earth 1, does not easily follow this rule.

According to some observers, Superboy's Golden Age exploits are thus explained as being that of an Earth 1 Superboy operating on Earth 2. This group of fans will point to the New Adventures of Superboy towards a story that suggested that Clark Kent of Earth 2 was inspired by meetings with Superboy to learn how to channel his powers effectively. Even the uniform he wore was retroactively thought to be a nod to Superboy's costume, rather than an invention of his own or a legacy artifact from Krypton. In effect, one way to read things is to say that Earth 1's "young Superman" was the mentor to the older, Earth 2 version. Superman of Earth 2 may never have come to be without the influence of Superboy.

Crisis on Infinite Earths, which posits both the complete erasure of Superboy and the key role Superman of Earth 2 to the closing of the multiverse therefore raises interesting (though mind-taxing) problems because of Superboy. Who disappeared first when the universes melded? Did they both disappear in the same instant, or, as we saw depicted in the comic, did Superman of Earth 2 fight until the very last instant of Earth 2's existence, some moments after Superboy's reality ended? If Superman of Earth 2 existed in the time stream longer than Superboy would he still be Superman when he landed the final blow on the Anti-Monitor and....ugh, you get the picture. It's a big, ol' geekfest up in here.

Other commentators have had an easier time with all this. Since, they say, Superboy's existence is entirely moot anyway, why not take a more economical view of the need to retcon parts of his existence. Instead of placing Superboy on Earth 2, and enduring the damage that can potentially do to one's sanity, don't be troubled by the few issues in which the whole "Superboy teaches Clark of Earth 2" thing was floated (New Adventures of Superboy #15-16). Believe that they describe a rare encounter between the two characters. Then, use the presence of Superboy as an indication of whether a story in the 1940s and 50s actually takes place on Earth 1. To them, the presence of Superboy in a story is something of a godsend in a 1950s comic, because it absolutely establishes it as an Earth 1 story.

Either way you solve the continuity puzzle that was Superboy I, one thing remains constant: from a present-day perspective he no longer exists, and never did. He's best remembered now more for his influence than the particulars of the stories in which he was involved. He gave Superman's creators a winnable court case against DC, and thus provided Siegel and Shuster an ironic source of royalty income from the creation they'd sold outright for a little over $100. And, through Superboy, the DCU got the Legion of Superheroes, a wholly original spin on the supergroup concept.


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